This blogpost will focus on scoring at least 1 success. It is a question that pops up often on game design boards, and is actually quite easy to compute once you know the base probability for a single success on a single die.
We will explain 2 methods for computing these probabilities, both mathematically equivalent. The first will use some basic rules from probability theory, the second will use the binomial distribution we explained before. We will explain everything in the context of rolling a number of D6. We could also provide a more general explanation of probability theory, but since this is a game design blog, we will use gaming terminology that is familiar to everyone. Hence, we will limit all examples to rolling D6’s, but it should be fairly straightforward to extrapolate to other types of dice or randomizers.
But first, let's introduce some notations, which we will use as shorthands:
- prob(D6 = 4): the probability of rolling a 4 on a single die. As everyone probably knows, the probability of rolling exactly a pre-determined on a D6 equals 1/6
- prob(D6 = 4+): the probability a single die will produce a result of 4 or more. Similarly, we will write prob(D6 = 2+) or prob(D6 = 3-) and so on …
- We will also discuss rolling two dice together. To avoid confusion by numbering dice, we will identify dice by colour. So, when we roll 2 dice, one die is red, the other is blue. prob(red D6 = 6, blue D6 = 4+) is then the probability of rolling a 6 on the red die, and a 4+ on the blue die. We might even write prob(red D6 = 6, blue D6 = 4, green D6 = 3-) etc.
- Probabilities can be expressed as numbers ranging from 0 to 1, or as a percentage.
Basic rules for working with probabilities
To compute the probability for “scoring at least 1 success”, one needs to know two basic rules about how to manipulate probabilities.
Rule 1: The probability of a die coming up with a range of results, equals the sum of the probabilities of the individual results.
E.g. if you want to compute prob(D6 = 4+), you simply add prob(D6 = 4) + prob(D6 = 5) + prob(D6 = 6) = 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6 = ½ = 50%.
This rule provides us with something that is very useful: The sum of the individual probabilities of an event happening and an event not happening must be equal to 1. Or, to give a few examples in the context of a single D6:
- prob(D6 = 4+) + prob(D6 = 3-) = 1
- prob(D6 = 6) + prob (D6 = 5-) = 1
Rule 2: The combined probability of a red die rolling some result, AND a blue die rolling some other result, equals the product of both individual probabilities.
A few examples:
- prob(red D6 = 6, blue D6 = 4+) = 1/6*1/2 = 1/12 = 8.33%.
- prob (red D6 =3, blue D6 = 4) = 1/6*1/6 = 1/36 = 2.78%.
- prob(red D6 = 6, blue D6 = 2+, green D6 = 5+) = 1/6*5/6*1/3 = 5/108 = 4.63%
A common mistake when using this rules is that the total number of outcomes is misjudged when trying to compute probabilities in this manner. E.g. suppose I want to know the probability of rolling a 3 and a 4 on two dice – but it does not matter what die rolls a 3 and what die rolls a 4. One might think this equals prob(red D6 = 3, blue D6= 4), but this merely expresses the probability of rolling a 3 on the red die, and 4 on the blue die. It excludes the possibility of rolling a 4 on the red die, and a 3 on the blue die, which would also be a valid outcome. Hence, the chances for rolling a 3 and a 4 on two dice (in any order), equals prob(red D6 = 3, blue D6 = 4) + prob(red D6 = 4, blue D6 = 3) = 1/6*1/6 + 1/6*1/6 = 5.56%.
Scoring at least 1 success, method 1
Let’s now take a look at the question of scoring at least 1 success on a number of dice. For the sake of clarity, let’s assume a success is rolling a 6, and let us assume we roll 4 dice. First, we use rule 1 as follows: the probability of rolling no 6’s, plus the probability of scoring at least one 6, equals 1. We can write this down as: prob(no 6’s) + prob (at least one 6) = 1. Either we score no 6’s at all, or we score at least 1. There is no other option. Hence, we can say that:
prob(at least one 6) = 1 – prob (no 6’s).
The only thing left to do is to compute the probability of scoring no 6’s, on 4 dice. The probability of rolling no 6 on a single dice is 1 – prob(D6 = 6) = 5/6 (rule 1). So, the probability of rolling no 6’s, on 4 dice, equals 5/6*5/6*5/6*5/6 = 0.48 (rule 2).
Completing the computation, we get: prob (at least one 6) = 1 – 0.48 = 0.52 = 52%.
That’s great, but what’s the general formula? If we roll n number of dice, and each die scores a success with probability s, then the probability for scoring at least 1 success equals:
prob (at least 1 success) = 1 – (1-s)^n
with the ^ sign indicating taking (1-s) to the power n.
Scoring at least 1 success, method 2
Some readers might have noticed there must be some connection to the binomial function. After all, in the "Buckets of Dice" blogpost, we expressed Bin(k, n, s) as a function of 3 variables: k is the number of successful events out of a total of n events, and s is the probability of a single event (in our case a die roll) being successful.
So, Bin(0, n, s) is the probability of 0 successful events. The probability for at least 1 successful event can then be computed as 1- Bin(0, n, s). And lo and behold, when you do the math, this works out exactly the same as the formula above.
Alternatively, you can add up the chances for 1 success, 2 success, up to n successes: Bin(1,n,s) + Bin(2,n,s) + … + Bin(n,n,s), since all these together are all possible outcomes for scoring at least one success. This is a little bit more difficult to work out mathematically, but the result is the same.
Results
Now that we know how to compute the probability, let’s look at some results.
The table below lists the probability for scoring at least 1 success, when rolling 1-12 dice, and for various target numbers that signify success.
6
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5+
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4+
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3+
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2+
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1
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0.17
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0.33
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0.50
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0.67
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0.83
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2
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0.31
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0.56
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0.75
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0.89
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0.97
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3
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0.42
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0.70
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0.88
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0.96
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1.00
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4
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0.52
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0.80
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0.94
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0.99
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1.00
|
5
|
0.60
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0.87
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0.97
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1.00
|
1.00
|
6
|
0.67
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0.91
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0.98
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1.00
|
1.00
|
7
|
0.72
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0.94
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0.99
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1.00
|
1.00
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8
|
0.77
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0.96
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1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
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9
|
0.81
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0.97
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1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
10
|
0.84
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0.98
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
11
|
0.87
|
0.99
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
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12
|
0.89
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0.99
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1.00
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1.00
|
1.00
|
You can easily read results from this table. E.g. when rolling 5 dice, with a 4+ needed for success, there is a 97% chance of scoring at least 1 success. Note that the results are rounded to 2 significant digits, so a result of 1.00 (100%) is not a 100%, but it is at least 99.5%.
Just to illustrate things, below is the table for rolling 12 dice, with probability for success on a single die expressed in 10% increments. Think about this as rolling a number of D10’s, in an analogue manner as we derived the results for a number of D6’s. So, when rolling 4 D10’s, each with a target number of 7+ (40% chance for success), there is a 87% chance of scoring at least 1 success.
0.1
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0.2
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0.3
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0.4
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0.5
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0.6
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0.7
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0.8
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0.9
|
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1
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0.10
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0.20
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0.30
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0.40
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0.50
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0.60
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0.70
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0.80
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0.90
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2
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0.19
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0.36
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0.51
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0.64
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0.75
|
0.84
|
0.91
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0.96
|
0.99
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3
|
0.27
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0.49
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0.66
|
0.78
|
0.88
|
0.94
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0.97
|
0.99
|
1.00
|
4
|
0.34
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0.59
|
0.76
|
0.87
|
0.94
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0.97
|
0.99
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1.00
|
1.00
|
5
|
0.41
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0.67
|
0.83
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0.92
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0.97
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0.99
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1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
6
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0.47
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0.74
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0.88
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0.95
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0.98
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1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
7
|
0.52
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0.79
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0.92
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0.97
|
0.99
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1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
8
|
0.57
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0.83
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0.94
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0.98
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
9
|
0.61
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0.87
|
0.96
|
0.99
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
10
|
0.65
|
0.89
|
0.97
|
0.99
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
11
|
0.69
|
0.91
|
0.98
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
12
|
0.72
|
0.93
|
0.99
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
|
1.00
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How to use as a gaming procedure?
A dice rolling procedure is meaningless by itself. It always needs to be embedded in a bigger framework of rules, and it should be given meaning within the context of a game.
Nevertheless, there are some interesting observations one can make from the tables above. If a specific mechanic only distinguishes between scoring no successes, and at least one success (in other words, no distinction is made whether you score multiple successes), it is obvious you should keep the number of dice, as well as the chance for success on a single die roll, both low. It makes no sense to design a mechanic in which you roll 6 D6’s, and have to score at least one success as a 4+. That gives you a probability of 98%, so why bother? On the other hand, rolling 3 D6’s, and requiring a 5+, gives a probability of 70%. That is still high, but at least it might make sense within a specific gaming engine.
Due to the limited “working range” of the “at least one success” mechanic, it is also a bit difficult to analyze possible modifiers. Either you could alter the target number (shifting a column left or right), or alter the number of dice (shifting a row up or down). There is no easy equivalency to be detected. This is partly caused by the power-dependency of the probability (mathematically, we would want to compute the derivative function, which is non-linear in this case). But if you want to introduce modifiers, use only one of them. It’s always a bad idea to modify target numbers and numbers of dice within the same die roll, since that simply confuses players and makes it harder to remember the rules
Personally, I am not a big fan of the "score at least one success" procedure, because it is a very binary decision to use as a resolution mechanic. But it is always nice to be able to compute the various probabilities, even if you would differentiate between 1, 2, 3, ... successes after the roll. And as a games designer, it's always useful to have a variety of tools in your toolbox, even though you rarely use some of them ...
Very thorough article, Phil. Especially liked your thoughts on "How to use." One point to make is that the terms "odds" and "probability" are not interchangeable. "Odds" are a ratio of probability of success to probability of failure such as the odds of rolling a '6' with one fair D6 is 1:5. The way "odds" are referenced in your article, I think "probability" would be a better term.
ReplyDeleteAppreciate your looks behind the math curtain with to respect to gaming and look forward to more.
Ok, will reread and correct ...
DeleteI usually write academic papers in English, so I might have erred when using some more informal language (as used in this type of blogpost) ;-)
Jonathan,
DeleteI replaced "odds" with "probabilities" in most of the text. Thanks for pointing that out. I should have known better, since Monte Carlo integration techniques are one of my areas of research ;-)
Happy to help, Phil! Being a statistician, certain terminology and usages trigger a response. Don't get me started on the misuse and incorrect defining of Confidence Intervals! My work has a large simulation emphasis as well.
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